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I'm Bob Grebel of Phenomenal Research in Seattle, and I wonder if we can impose upon you again

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to get a description of the object you saw in the night of the 13th.

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Oh, right! Okay, so that was last Friday, right?

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Uh, okay. The best way for me to describe it, the original orange light that I saw was cone shaped and tilted.

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And while I turned the lights off to make sure it wasn't a reflection, and I went back to the center window,

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and I thought, well, somebody in West Seattle must be having some kind of a light show.

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So, while I was dialing, trying to get through the king to find out, you know, if anything was going on,

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I looked out again and I saw another orange light.

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This one, the shape was more flat, same sort of an orange tone like you'd see on a bright sunset.

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And the bright tip of this orange light, the flatter one on the bottom, was touching the round cone of the previous orange light.

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And I blinked and I shook my head and flashed the lights and, you know, went through all sorts of hurrah here.

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And so then the line, while I was doing this, I was trying to get through the king and the line was busy, so I called again.

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I went in my phone cord to kind of show it so I have to leave the window.

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So I strained my neck and dragged the phone as far as I could while I was dialing, and in this short period of time,

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the one on the bottom had shrunk.

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And then when I got through on king, they said, well, call the newsroom. So they gave me another number.

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I went back to the window again. The bottom one was gone and the original cone, which was tilted, was now straight up and down.

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That's right.

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Then I got through to king and I went through my spiel asking about, you know, was West Seattle or approximately that area having any kind of a

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grand opening or, you know, to have spotlights or kind of a West Seattle arts festival or anything that we have any reason to have any,

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having anything to do with spotlights in the sky or anything. And the guy kind of laughed at me. He said, no, you know, and so by this time,

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I spoke back and it was gone. Everything was gone.

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So he said that I should call, you know, the UFO because they were interested in this sort of thing.

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And I thought, well, gee, you know, I thought, well, if somebody else has reported seeing these orange lights, then it will give me some peace of mind.

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And I was at the wood de-island. I asked people up there on wood de-island if anybody saw anything and so far, I'm the only one that seems to have seen these orange lights.

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And I'm getting her, you know, I'm getting her rassed by my friends. You're seeing things now that you're over 30, you know.

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You know, rather than over 30 kids, you know, this is just the beginning. Samillity sets in and then rickets, you know.

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But it was really spooky. My cottage faces east, west. And I would say, you know, 90% of the time that I'm home,

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I have one I have on the television set and the rest of the time I'm watching the lake and the sailboats and the planes take off and land and all this kind of stuff.

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So I know when I see reflections and I know when it's light, some planes and this sort of thing.

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And this was the most unusual sighting of light formations that I've ever seen.

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It had no form really as such. You know, I didn't see any round object or creature shape or anything else.

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It was just kind of like a cone shape. And the other one, like I say, it was even less descriptive other than just a squaudy rectangular type light.

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Yes. So, you know, that's about as descriptive as I can be for, you know, I don't think the whole thing lasted over about 8 to 10 minutes maximum time.

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Now you said that the first object was tilted when you first saw it. Right. Do you have any idea what degree of tilt?

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Well, I'm looking at my hand. Okay. If you were to have your hand palm facing left and top side of hand facing right, you know, with fingers straight up.

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Okay. If you were to turn your hand at an angle of like about 11 o'clock, about 11 o'clock or five minutes to five, which is, you know, about five minutes to five angle.

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That's about a 50 degree, 55 degree.

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Yeah. And then the last time I saw it, it was basically straight up and down.

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Uh-huh. That had changed its shape, didn't it? The last time you saw it?

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Uh, yeah.

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Well, let me think about that seriously. The things that went through my mind when I saw the two of them intersected would be, if you were to draw the old fashioned kind of a balloon that they filmed around the world in 80 days type thing.

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Yes.

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If you were to take the band that goes across the bottom and to take the same cone shape and take and draw that around the top right side of the balloon and then black out the rest, that would be about the formation that I, that it formed.

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And I thought, well, now maybe that's what it was. Maybe it was somebody in a balloon and the lights were on just that part of it.

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And then like I said, when the bottom light disappeared and that little orange stream was still left, I kind of decided that couldn't be it.

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But as far as the actual changing shape that I'm not too clear on, it would, it seemed to me it would kind of pooch that a little more on the left and straighter on the right hand side.

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The apex was down.

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Right.

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How about colored lights? Anything like that?

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No. It was just a solid go, kind of a solid reddish orange color that you'd have in a sunset.

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More orange than red.

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Well, you might be interested in knowing that that same night, a lady in Ballard reported approximately 11.30, 5 to 6 moving rectangular shaped light objects.

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I'll be done.

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Hmm, good.

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These were traveling from north to south at the time that she saw them, so they may be associated with what you saw.

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Yeah, because this would have had your band with those watching the 11 o'clock news on King and Ray McMackin was given the sport.

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So it had to be the first time I saw it till the time that I finally got through.

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It would have been about from 10 after you're 11 to 20 after 11, approximately right in there that I saw it somewhere within that time period.

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Okay.

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But, you know, I've really gotten quite the wrapping in the last few days, you know.

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Anytime I say something about having a lapse of memory or something, I'll say, do you remember talking to someone, or do you remember the conversation or something?

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And maybe one of those days, you know, when the husband kind of tunes the wife out, you know, I have these same instances with my family where, you know, you've heard the same thing over, so you kind of tune them out.

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They say, well, you know, this is just another sign you wrote with 30, you're going down the hill, and I've really gotten quite the wrapping.

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And, well, the birds are talking to you, it's probably like when you saw those orange lights, right?

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You know, so I give them, oh, please, somebody, somebody please tell me that they saw him too, so I don't think I'm losing my mind.

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But he saw five or six.

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Hmm.

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I'll be darned.

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Well, it looked like, you know, like I say in the general vicinity of West Seattle from where I was sitting.

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Yes.

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Because I looked basically at Mercer Island right about where the shopping center area, the business district of Mercer Island is.

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I see.

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And it was just, you know, basically, just what would look above that, but I knew, you know, that I had to be further, further towards the mountains.

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Now, in the event you should see anything again in the future, we'd like to hear from you, but we have a new number I think you should have.

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Oh, okay, just one second here. Where's my pencil? My dog's laying on it. Just a second.

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I will write this down in my little brown book that I have on my personal of all times, because, you know, I can't, I don't know if I'm a believer or not a believer.

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You know, there are a lot of phenomenons that have not been explained.

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And God said He created the heavens and the earth, but like the thing we say in our family, there's no place in the Bible.

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He doesn't say that He couldn't have created another system someplace else.

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Right.

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And so there is a reason to have a questioning mind and consider that it's within the realm of possibility.

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Right.

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So I will definitely keep this number and if I can, if I see anything similar to this that I recognize as being, you know, not a reflection of a city light from the standard or airplane light to an annual, definitely call.

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Finally, appreciate your calling and feel free to call anytime.

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Great. And thank you for reassuring me that somebody else did see it.

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Okay.

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Thank you very much.

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Bye-bye.